Th3r0b i have a question it's possible to hack some QT style (like Bespin, Virtually, or QTCurve) to put window control in toolbar for all apps (like in this screenshot) some like CSD (client side decoration of Gnome that give you <gkt headerbar>)? if it's possible can you give me a link or something (i dont expect to get some functional cause im a totally noob in QT <i wytiwyg="1" cant="" find="" idiot="" like="" tutorials="" to="" make="" windows="" xd="" qtcreator="" does="" all="" the="" work="" for="" you="" but="" dont="" learn="" how="" "hack"="" that="" styles="">)</i>
if u want the style then it's very similar to bespin since it's based on it, it's very configurable so u should get able to make it look to ur preferences. If u on the other hand want some more exotic stuff like min/max/close buttons in the toolbar or mac-like drawers then it's not that easy ....there is a reason no-one has done anything like that and released it publicly.
This is a great desktop, very apple'esque. The only things that I would change are to make the pill you have there on the right like on the konsole smaller and make the color of the out of focus titlebar buttons one uniform color. It looks like you just took the colored in-focus titlebar buttons and desaturated them. Other than that it's virtually perfect. I quite like the unified titlebar toolbars you have going on there which takes what is going on in OS X and takes it to the next step. I kind of like the way your file manager looks better than my finder in mt. lion with totalfinder tabbed add-on. I like the composition of the windows and how close to apple they are especially with the drawers on that file manager.. the only thing they need is a bit more padding to push those collapse\expand arrows away from the border. But I have to admit most of my criticism could be considered nit picky things and otherwise this looks really good.
Yup, just calculate r+g+b/3 for each pixel to get a desaturated effect for the inactive buttons. I actually just stole the pixmaps from a mac scrot somewhere
The 'remove titlebar and add control buttons to toolbar' approach is quite nice I can say after using it a while. At the time of this scrot I had just (very quickly) implemented it cause I just wanted to know what it 'feels' like.
Tho it's mostly an ugly hack and I'm prolly not gonna use it long-term but it was fun.
Glad to hear you like my file manager, tho the gui is just a cheap clone of finder.
The drawers are implemented in the file manager, there is no such concept for linux/X11 so I had to 'hack' / write ugly code to 'force' such behaviour.
Sure, some paddings are 'off' and colors don't 'fit' and some sizes are 'off' and whatnot, it's all very quickly done
An amazing desktop (again ) and yes , you should DEFINITELY write something here Could you just say if the bottom terminal is a KDE panel with some konsole widget or something else please? Nice work again and keep up the great work !
I don't know, I just see too much apple buttons , it's just a personal point of view. For me, I like the default kde window border, I like the elementary theme too but I can't use the "grouping windows" feature with it
i just die xD lol, excelent desktop awesome music player and awesome buttons inside the "menu application" i really like that idea, i askmyself why on the earth i wanna see a titlebar with the name of the app? damn! that's just eat screen space!, few time ago i build a wild desktop, you hadn't buttons in windows to close it you need to do it with gnome-pie (yes that strage desktop was build on gtk xD)
It's a general opinion these days that 'we need a change' in the menubars and titlebars, it's just, nobody knows how they should change it. Since no matter what you try, youre bound to fuck smth up. This solution is far from perfect and just a quick hack
Ic, well, actually, you wouldn't need any buttons.... since you have 3 mouse buttons... so one could implement the titlebar to listen for mouseclick events and just check which button the user pressed and react accordingly... ofc ignore dragEvents. I actually close windows so often I've setup kwin to close the window if I middle-click the titlebar. It's much faster.
Implementing the mouse button thing has kinda already been implemented like right clicking to bring up a menu. I think to do it properly you might need to start messing around with the window manager code, but you could probably get there. But programmers are famous for not doing things properly anyway, so yeah.
Also the thing about changing menubars and titlebars is really true, I have that feeling all the time, but I just don't know what to change it to.
yeah what I meant was before the window manager gets the events you'd catch them in the deco... would actually be kinda easy but I've noticed I rarely min/max any windows and I've the mid button for close (which I use a lot).
for the menubar, so far Apple has the far superior solution (all the endless clones should be proof of that) ...some apple apps actually has removed the titlebar also. That's where I got the idea.
, can you give me some link or point to start doing this kind of things?, i'm studying Computer Engineering so, they give me Java and C, i know nothing about how to do this hacks, and in what language they are. So if not too much trouble, can you give me a link to start learn?
Now that that's out of the way. depends on exactly what you mean but as long as you don't want anything too wonky you should be able to do it with Qt/C++. Most the hacks I've written are in pure Qt. Only times I've had to fiddle with X is when I did the 'drawers'.
As QStyle's are full-blown C++ plugins the run within the application you are able to do pretty much anything from within there. Most hacks' I've written I've done in bespin.
So the logical way to start learning would be to learn Qt/C++. You have to understand the Qt framework in order to make it do what you want.
You'll need some 'IDE' to start programming, I recommend qtcreator [link] as it's written by the trolls and you get a lot of autofill and other convenience features.
Not sure what to say..... 'how I learned it?' well I just browsed the bespin code and sometimes I actually understood smth and I was able to re-write it the way I wanted. dont do this! this is the wrong way.
qtcreator should offer things like 'get started' or whatever.
yeah... you don't learn to code by reading a book or taking a course or whatever. you learn to code by coding. so, start with some small program you've always wanted to write and youre bound to learn something.